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WintersportOpties11

2010-12-06T14:20:48Z

Elanthia: /* Choices */

<big> Wintersport 2011 general page http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/Wintersport2011</big>

We've found this house: http://www.mediavacationrentals.com/US/property.php?view=56424#planning_cottage
Which can hold 10 people (it says), is not that expensive, does have a kitchen, is available in the week we want and is on walking distance from the gondola

It doesn't have 10 *real* beds, but it has only two 2person beds so people who aren't a couple don't have to pair up ;)

The total costs would be around 600 euro pp

170 housing
120 drive
150 food
140 ski-passes
30 tol
= 610 pp

Who's in?
* + failbaitr is in
* + Will-Do is in
* + Foobar is in
* + Elmer is in
* + Aetab is in
* + Momo is in
* + JamesR is in (possibly +2 more too)
* + Syb is in
* / Elanthia ?
* - Brainsmoke is out
16:55 < Will-Do> maar, mochten we een ruim huisje hebben (en/of een bed/stukje grond+luchtbed "over") kun je vast later ook nog wel mee :)
16:57 < brainsmok> jup, dat zou wel fijn zijn, sinds een paar dagen geleden zijn er nog wat extra dingen bijgekomen, dus ik kan nu echt niet zeggen of ik wel geld heb voor wintersport

* - Thyrif is out

= Choices =
At this moment we have 4 choices (at least, as I see it):
* a) an expensive vacation in Andorra between the 19th and the 26th
* b) A cheaper vacation in Andorra outside this week (and by this, I actually mean "after" this week)
* c) A cheaper vacation in France in this week
* d) divide the group over multiple houses, like 2 houses for 5 people each, or 3 houses for 3-4 people each
* e) Lets go before February!
* f) Book hotel- or 2/3 person rooms. There are still a lot available, even included breakfast. Pro: availability, affordable. Cons: no kitchen, no cosy group.

{| border="1"
! Name
! Option(s)
! Because
|-
|Failbaitr
|B, C or D
|failbatr doesn't care, but an expensive week in Andorra is unfortunate for all that money
|-
|Thyrif
|B, C, D, E or F
|thyrif can't go when the vacation is more expensive than 500 (so option A isn't an option for him)
|-
|Will-Do
|B, C or F
|Will-Do doens't have enough money for an expensive week in Andorra, so option B or C. Separate the group isn't as cosy as supposed to. Before February I can't go because of school. Íf the two-person-housing is indeed cheap enough and íf I can have a house with failbaitr, I would be okay with this ;)
|-
|Aetab
|A, C, D or E
|aetab and momo can go any week marked as OK on the wiki table. Much prefer cheap options, but if there is no other choice would consider less cheap. Would really like to travel with the entire group. But separate houses no problem.
|-
|Momo
|A, C, D or E
|See aetab
|-
|diggie (fwiw)
|B,C,D
|During ''krokusvakantie'' turned out to be a no-go for me. Later (3rd week of March?) would be great! France slightly preferred (closer)
|-
|JamesR
|A,B,C,D,F
|*can't wait to go sliding down mountains* ;)
|-
|Elanthia
|B,C,D,E,F
|<elanthia> nouja als het voor 450-500 kan dan is het wel reeeler dat ik mee kan
|-
|*Name*
|*A,B,C*
|*...*
|-
|}

= Fits inside our demands =
== Andorra ==

*<del>http://www.self-catering-breaks.com/Properties/Prop5204.htm</del>
** <del>to 10 persons</del>
** <del>Beds "Twins 3, Doubles 2"</del>
** <del>Max 400 meter walking to the lift and "Located 150m from the gondola and the Coma Pedrosa Natural Park and right on the edge of a mountain stream with trout!"</del>
** <del>Max price per week 1390 euro</del> not available any more

*http://www.mediavacationrentals.com/US/property.php?view=56424#planning_cottage
** to 10 persons (but, 2 no real beds)
** Ski lifts: Approx 220 yd
** 1 bedroom with 1 Two-person bed, 1 Single bed. 1 bedroom with 1 Two-person bed. 1 bedroom with 3 Single bed. 1 Living room with 1 Convertible sofa. 1 Living room with 1 Removable bed.
* 19-26 feb, 1700 euro's

*<del> http://www.hola-andorra.com/arinsal/english/ribafetagb.html</del>
** <del> to 14 people. 5 double beds, 5 single beds </del>
** <del> "It is located just 400m from the gondola which takes you to the Arinsal Pal ski resort." </del>
** <del> 19-26 feb, 2075 euro in total </del> Already booked

*http://www.holiday-rentals.co.uk/p658576a#rates-bar
** 10-15 people. The beds look nice (and fluffy). 5 Double Beds, 4 Single Beds
** No idea how far the slopes are
** Available betweet 19-26 February for 2500 euro in total.

== France ==
*http://www.skihorizon.com/travel/GB/vente2/produit.asp
''Champagny en Vanoise (LA PLAGNE) : Chalet Diamant / France - Northern French Alps - Champagny en Vanoise (LA PLAGNE)''
** To 10 personen
** 500 m from the slopes
** £ 913.42 =~ 1080 EURO (from 19-26 feb)
** Bedroom 1 : 1 double bed(s) ; 2 bunk bed(s) ; Bedroom 2 : 1 double bed(s) ; Bedroom 3 : 4 single bed(s) ;

*http://www2.chalettravel.nl/travel/du/vente2/produit.asp?heb_id=14912&datedebut=2011-02-19&acti_type=5&lieu_id=41&nbnuits=7&formule_id=0
** 1 t/m 12 pers. - 120 m2
** they claim we kan "ski from our apartment"
** 2010 euros for 19-26 feb

*http://www.skipass-devoluy.com/catalog/
** If I understand the french okay, the ski-passes will be around 1600 euro, 1 week, for 10 persons (160 pp. Andorra was 140 pp last year)

* http://www.wintertrex.nl/speciaal-zoeken/zoeken_boeken.html?schritt=2&ziel=2&max_preis=300&erwachsene=10&datum=2542,2543,2544,2545,2546,2547,2548&abreise=EIG&verpflegung=1&land=2&dauer=5-8&sortby=36
** price including liftpass
** price pp will be around 150-200 euro's
** we will have to split the group in two

== Austria ==

= Less useful, but worth looking into if everthing else fails =
==Andorra==

* http://www.drive-alive.co.uk/self_catering.asp - housing up to 8 people, so didn't looked into this that much

* http://www.st-andreu.com/prix.php#bed:
2 Twin Bedrooms
1 Bathroom
2 Sofabeds
Kitchenette
TV
** 1300 euro in total
** Looks like a max of 5 people, and sofa-beds, so didn't looked into this that much

* http://www.self-catering-breaks.com/Properties/Prop42521.htm
** 5 minutes walk to centre du ville & lift
** Up to 6 people, so 2 houses
** between de 300 en 1075 per week, total max 2150.

* http://www.self-catering-breaks.com/Properties/Prop37763.htm
** 50 meter until the lifts
** Max 117 per night, so 819 per week. A big complex with a lot of apartments. 4 people per apartment. that would be 3 apartements with a max of 2457 euro in total.

* http://www.self-catering-breaks.com/Properties/Prop61486.htm
** 900m to the lift
** 4 people per house, max 80 euro per night, with a maximum of 560 per week. 3 apartements would be a max of 1680 euro in totaal.

== IRC paste, zodat het niet kwijtraakt ==

23:29 < aequitas> http://tinyurl.com/35hj9ge
23:29 < aequitas> is inclusief skipas
23:30 < Will-Do> maar niet de hele groep in 1 huisje toch?
23:30 < aequitas> het is een 10 persoonshuisje
23:30 < aequitas> maar zal wel tegenvallen met bedden
23:32 < Will-Do> "Woon/slaapkamer met 2-persoons uitklapbed,"
23:32 < Will-Do> en in totaal zie ik maar 8 slaaplaatsen?
23:33 < aequitas> ow en stapelbedden
23:33 < aequitas> :(
23:34 < Will-Do> stapelbedden is een minder kwaad dan geen of woonkamer bedden, lijkt me
23:35 < Will-Do> maar either ween niet echt een mega goed idee, sorry
23:35 < Will-Do> ween=way
23:36 < aequitas> had nog niet gelezen dat er stapelbedden waren
23:36 < aequitas> maar die zijn geen goed idee
23:37 < Will-Do> okok
23:37 < aequitas> je ontkomt bijna niet aan een slaapbank
23:38 < Will-Do> wie gaat op de slaapbank dan? :P)
23:38 < aequitas> als ik zo bekijk wat ik allemaal tegenkom
23:38 < Will-Do> want ik vind het prima, maar ik wil er niet op slapen ;0
23:38 < aequitas> moeten we even overleggen
23:38 < Will-Do> ik heb een kamertje voor mezelf nodig
23:39 < aequitas> slaapbank in de kamer zie ik niet zitten voor momo en mij
23:39 < Will-Do> idd, same here
23:39 < aequitas> lol
23:39 < Will-Do> maar dan vind ik het niet eerlijk om iemand anders te vertellen dat diegene het moet doen
23:39 < aequitas> 1 x extra douche
23:39 < aequitas> soms extra wc
23:39 < Will-Do> maar, als diegene het wil, prima ;)
23:39 < aequitas> de wc is er dus niet altijd :P
23:40 < aequitas> ik wil ook niemand verplichten
23:40 < Will-Do> ik neem aan dat er altijd 1 is?
23:40 < Will-Do> 1 wc
23:40 < Will-Do> das op zich genoeg. We zijn allemaal volwassen en dan maar wat extra schoonmaken oid
23:43 < aequitas> hier staat wat opties: http://tinyurl.com/2eh8kk2
23:43 < aequitas> allemaal inclusief skipas
23:44 < aequitas> http://tinyurl.com/29ay8mv
23:44 < aequitas> meer van die zoek
23:46 < Will-Do> ik zie nog steeds maar 1 10 pers huisje, waar een slaapbank in zit?
23:46 < Will-Do> of is de zoekfunctie bij mij anders
23:46 < aequitas> twee huisjes is voor mij nog een prima optie
23:46 < aequitas> slapen doe je toch niet samen
23:47 < aequitas> en dan gaan we 's avonds om beurten bij elkaar chillen
23:49 < Will-Do> 2 huisjes zie ik echt niet zitten
23:50 < aequitas> wrom niet?
23:51 < Will-Do> omdat ik denk dat dat alleen goed gaat als we precies de goede combi vinden van mensen per huisje, en dat niet zie gebeuren
23:51 < Will-Do> (alsin: sommige mensen gaan makkelijker met de een om als met de ander, en de prefecte splitsing bestaat niet)
23:52 < Will-Do> iedereen bij elkaar verspreid de spanningen dan
23:54 < aequitas> Will-Do: als je al geen goeie combi van vinden van hoe je mensen over twee huisjes wil verdelen, hoe wil je die dan in een huisje onderbrengen?
23:55 < Will-Do> zoals ik zei; iedereen bij elkaar verpsreid de spanningen
23:55 < Will-Do> uiteraard op voorwaarde dat het huisje groot genoeg is, maar met 10 bedden ga ik daar van uit
23:55 < Will-Do> echte bedden
------------------- Day changed to 12/01/10 -------------------
00:05 < aequitas> ga er maar niet van uit dat het huisje heel veel groter zal zijn bij meer personen
00:05 < aequitas> en twee huisjes is makkelijker met koken want beide eigen keuken
00:06 < aequitas> en ik denk dat je met twee losse huisjes beter de spanningen verspreid dat iedereen in een huisje
00:06 < Will-Do> aequitas: alleen als je dan de combi vind waarbij bepaalde mensen niet bij elkaar in huisjes zitten
00:07 < Will-Do> iets wat ik btw wel als een optie zie, maar dat maakt de vakantie een stuk individueler, is om huisjes voor 2-3 personene te vinden (daar zijn er namelijk nog vet veel van)
00:07 < Will-Do> dunno hoe duur het is, heb niet naar de kosten gekeken, dus het kan zomaar een dom idee zijn
00:07 < aequitas> Will-Do: begrijp ik het goed dat je er van uit gaat dat bepaalde mensen al niet bij elkaar in een huisje willen zitten?
00:07 < Will-Do> maar wbt de splitsing vind ik dat fijner
00:07 < Will-Do> aequitas: yes
00:07 < aequitas> dan heb je dat probleem nog veel harder in 1 huisje met z'n allen
00:08 < Will-Do> sowieso kunnen de mensen die luxer willen slapen met kleinere groepjes makkelijker en duurder huisje nemen (en mag ik bij Jan \o/)
00:08 < Will-Do> aequitas: vandaar ook deze optie :P
00:13 < Will-Do> zoiets zou een optie zijn voor 3-4 pers http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/rentals/soldeu/70366
00:23 < aequitas> Will-Do: die zijn niet beschikbaar voor de periode dat we willen gaan, en sowieso te duur
00:24 < Will-Do> te duur? max 600 euro /4
00:25 < aequitas> ow is het per huisje ipv per persoon
00:25 < aequitas> was een beetje gewend aan de prijzen per persoon :)
00:26 < Will-Do> ik zie ook hotels voor 220 voor 1 kamer (aka 2 pers)
00:26 < Will-Do> das wel een single room, ik neem aan 2 bedden?
00:26 < Will-Do> anders bijvoorbeeld 400 incl ontbijt voor 2 pers
00:27 < aequitas> dan zitten we wel met het probleem dat het eetbudget omhoog gaat omdat we uit moeten eten
00:27 < aequitas> of zit er keuken bij?
00:29 < Will-Do> nee, das een hotelkamer
00:29 < Will-Do> maar als we dat doen denk ik dat we het eetbudget niet op 1 hoop moeten goeien
00:29 < Will-Do> gooien
00:30 < Will-Do> uiteraard gaan we met elkaar eten enzo, maar met elkaar koken werkt niet als niemand een keuken heeft en/of de grootste keuken max 4 personen kan hebben
00:30 < Will-Do> maarja, ontbijt zit er dan bij in, lunch was sowieso meestal al op de piste.. dus dat is alleen avondeten
00:32 < Will-Do> hier bijvoorbeeld: http://tinyurl.com/3a8e7er
00:36 < aequitas> Will-Do: dat zijn prijzen per nacht volgens mij :(
00:37 < Will-Do> nope
00:37 < aequitas> en het is in andorra de villa en daar was jan nogal op tegen
00:37 < Will-Do> die is €68.00 per nacht
00:37 < Will-Do> aequitas: het was maar ter indicatie. Heb atm ook helemaal niet op de afstand naar de pistes gelet etc
00:38 < Will-Do> 68 per nacht = 480 /2, want 2 pers = niet zo duur?
00:38 < aequitas> voor de meeste wel
00:39 < aequitas> die willen toch niet boven de 200 voor lodging?
00:39 < Will-Do> dit is 240, maar incl ontbijt
00:39 < aequitas> maar eetkosten zijn dan wel opeens veel hoger
00:39 < Will-Do> maar zoals ik al zei. Als we op deze manier splitsen kunnen de mensen met veel geld een duurdere optie kiezen en de mensen met weinig geld een goedkopere
00:39 < Will-Do> er zijn goedkopere opties, maar dat zijn opties waar atm maar 1 kamer van is, die ga ik er dus niet bij zeten want die kan morgen zo weg zijn
00:40 < aequitas> moet er wel een goedkopere optie in de buurt zijn
00:40 < aequitas> sorry trouwens voor mijn nogal niet optimistische instellen op het moment
00:40 < Will-Do> ik denk niet dat we echt 100% bij elkaar in de buurt komen op die manier
00:40 < Will-Do> zelfde dorp misschien
00:40 < Will-Do> is er iets waardoor de instelling is?
00:41 < aequitas> nee dat niet
00:41 < Will-Do> gelukkig maar :)
00:41 < aequitas> maar merk dat ik op al die dingen die je noemt iets negatiefs vindt
00:42 < aequitas> dus vandaar dat ik het even zeg
00:42 < Will-Do> btw, dunno why, maar ik krijg (als ik op 'book now klik" die kamer voor 375 euro totaal
00:42 < Will-Do> lief dat je het zegt :)
00:42 < Will-Do> 375 / 2 = onder de 200 euro ^^
00:42 < aequitas> ja zag het ook
00:42 < aequitas> maar nog steeds andorra de villa en dat was sucks volgens jan
00:47 < Will-Do> ok, 3 personen 480 euro totaal
00:47 < Will-Do> http://wintersport.sunweb.nl/andorra/grandvalira/pas_de_la_casa/appartementen_lake_placid.htm?view=prices&objectIndex=1&month=20112&next=true#dur-x
00:47 < Will-Do> das dus 160 euro pp
00:47 < Will-Do> incl skipas!
00:47 < Will-Do> dat is ziek goedkoop
00:48 < Will-Do> oh en 50 meter vanaf de piste
00:48 < Will-Do> en.. ik denk dat we nog wel met elkaar in hetzelfde gebouw kunnen
00:48 < Will-Do> ze zeggen zelfs dat er een keuken bij zit
00:49 < Will-Do> (en yes, de bedden zijn niet zo shiny, maar again.. ter indicatie)
00:51 < Will-Do> http://wintersport.sunweb.nl/andorra/grandvalira/pas_de_la_casa/appartementen_paradis_blanc.htm?view=prices&transporttype=EV&objectIndex=3#dur-x 509 euro voor 3 pers incl skipas
00:51 < Will-Do> das dus 170 euro pp
00:51 < Will-Do> ook weer aan de piste
00:51 < Will-Do> en een keuken erbij
00:51 < Will-Do> 509 / 2 is zelfs 255 euro, voor huisje + skipas dus
00:51 < aequitas> prijzen zijn per persoon :(
00:51 < Will-Do> hm, buggar
00:52 < aequitas> anders was het wel een zeer goede aanbieding geweest
00:52 < aequitas> :)
00:55 < aequitas> ik denk dat we hier redelijk wat opties hebben waar we er wel een in kunnen vinden: http://www.wintertrex.nl/speciaal-zoeken/zoeken_boeken.html?schritt=1&ziel=2&erwachsene=5&datum=2535,2536,2537,2538,2539,2540,2541&abreise=EIG&verpflegung=1&land=2&dauer=5-8&sortby=36&start_pos=1
00:55 < Will-Do> mja, dan hebben we weer 2 huisjes
00:55 < aequitas> sommige 6 persoonshuisjes kan je ook met 5 man bezetten
00:56 < aequitas> en dan zit je niet met een bankbed
00:56 < Will-Do> ik zie nog steeds helemaal niets in een splitsing
00:57 < aequitas> maar spliten in meer dan 2 vindt je wel weer goed?
00:57 < aequitas> ik snap het even niet :(
00:57 < Will-Do> ik vind splitsen in 2 goepen niet goed, maar als ik alleen met failbaitr in 1 huisje mag vind ik dat prima ;)
00:59 < aequitas> maar 2 persoons huisjes zijn sowieso te duur
00:59 < aequitas> want je gaat dan bijna altijd met 2 personen in een 4 persoons huisje
00:59 < aequitas> dus betaal je sowieso veel
01:00 < Will-Do> deze dan? http://www.laterooms.com/en/hotel-reservations/207508_hotel-marfany-escaldes.aspx
01:01 < Will-Do> als ik het goed zie 235 euro voor 1 week, 2 personen?
01:01 < Will-Do> kan niet zien hoe ver de gondolla is, ik gok dat het zonder eten is
01:02 < Will-Do> ownee, incl breakfast zelfs ^^
01:03 < Will-Do> en neit in andorra de vella ;)
01:03 < aequitas> wel in de vella :(, http://goo.gl/maps/PSDw
01:03 < Will-Do> hm, dunno dan
01:03 < aequitas> of iig ver van de skigebieden :(
01:04 < Will-Do> dan weet ik het even niet
01:04 < aequitas> ik vindt het niet erg om in 2 huisjes te zitten
01:04 < aequitas> frankrijk maakt me neit uit
01:05 < aequitas> dat het ietsjes meer moet kosten niet
01:05 < aequitas> ik wil gewoon gezellig met de groep de sneeuw in
01:05 < aequitas> en momo er bij hebben en iig een kamer voor ons twee
01:06 < Will-Do> deze dan http://nl.hotels.com/hotel/details.html?pa=6&pn=1&ps=6&reviewOrder=date_newest_first&roomno=1&departureDate=26-02-2011&destinationId=1639434&rooms[0].numberOfAdults=2&tab=description&arrivalDate=19-02-2011&hotelId=237378&validate=false
01:07 < Will-Do> ik heb niet geneog geld om voor veel te veel op vakantie te gaan (atm heb ik <1000 euro en geen baan), frankrijk vind ik ook prima, maar ik wil niet dat de groep gesplitst wordt
01:08 < Will-Do> http://nl.hotels.com/hotel/details.html?pa=9&pn=1&ps=9&reviewOrder=date_newest_first&roomno=1&departureDate=26-02-2011&destinationId=1639434&rooms[0].numberOfAdults=2&tab=description&arrivalDate=19-02-2011&hotelId=240781&validate=false la masana, 75 euro per nacht incl ontbijt
01:08 < aequitas> sorry dat ik het zo zeg, maar ik vindt dat je daar een beetje te groot punt van maakt
01:08 < aequitas> we kunnen gewoon gezellig bij elkaar langsgaan in de avond
01:08 < aequitas> en overdag zitten we toch allemaal op de piste
01:09 < aequitas> 's ochtends lopen we elkaar alleen maar in de weg als we met veel in een huisje zitten
01:09 < aequitas> dus ik zie alleen maar voordelen aan de groep spliten over 2/3 huisjes
01:08 < aequitas> sorry dat ik het zo zeg, maar ik vindt dat je daar een beetje te groot punt van maakt
01:08 < aequitas> we kunnen gewoon gezellig bij elkaar langsgaan in de avond
01:08 < aequitas> en overdag zitten we toch allemaal op de piste
01:09 < aequitas> 's ochtends lopen we elkaar alleen maar in de weg als we met veel in een huisje zitten
01:09 < aequitas> dus ik zie alleen maar voordelen aan de groep spliten over 2/3 huisjes
01:11 < aequitas> is een goeie optie die laatste
01:12 < aequitas> zet het maar sowieso op de wiki
01:12 < aequitas> ik ga slapen
01:12 < aequitas> morgen weer werken
01:13 < Will-Do> ik ga ook slapen

Wintersport2011

2010-12-06T14:15:59Z

Elanthia: Calendar Updated

{{Event
|Name=Wintersport 2011
|Info=Wintersport in Andorra
}}

== What ==

Snowflakes will be dropping down in Andorra next year, and it would be a waste not to there to enjoy it.

So who will be coming along? Please fill in your name if your interested to come.

For the previous events look here [[Wintersport]] & [[Wintersport10]].

== Costs ==
Wintersport can be expensive if you want to. But we managed to go all-in (transport, apartment, good food, ski-passes) for less then € 500,- per person. For one week of wintersport.

To get some idea (and for comparing options)... What we spent last time:
* Fuel (nothing, snow sponsored it, but we filled up the tanks about 10 times in total
* Tolls (about 50 per car)
* Accomodation: ?
* Ski Passes: ~140 pp
* Ski rent: ?
* Food: ?

== Where ==
* Andorra
** Although Andorra is the most awesomest place ever, it can be useful to explore the other options..
** [http://www.rentalia.com/ski-resorts-andorran-pyrenees/ skiing areas in andorra]
* France
** The Avoriaz area is also cool, it has a big ski area (portes du soleil) with a lot of snowparks, got cheap housings, apres-ski possibilities and is nearby (about 8-9 hour drive)
**<james> La Tania has a mini-pass which includes a telecabine for EUR15/day - and a decent ski area - http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/La-Tania/pistemap
**<james> the telecabine is about 50 metres from the building - downhill on snow :-)
* Austria
** Oostenrijk..
*** Solden, big resort absolute fun for experts and beginners. (Not as far away from NL as Andorra, less fuel costs :) )
http://www.soelden.com/main/NL/SD/WI/skigebiet/index.html
* Diverse
*** http://winter.husk.nl/bestemmingen.htm el cheapo wintersport - wordt liever ontweken

<big>'''The different housing options are placed at this page:
[[WintersportOpties11]]'''</big>

'''Look at [[wintersport11Options|this page]] for all the different wishes and housing options '''

==Transport==
* [[User:Aequitas|Aequitas]] - prius, 4 people (incl me), no fuel costs
* [[User:Elanthia|Elanthia]] - Opel Corsa, 4 people (incl me), with fuel costs unfortunately :)
* [[User:Will-Do|Will-Do]] - Asked to borrow the car of her parents. Renault Megane Scenic, 5 people excl ski-stuff, incl me. With fuel costs -> no answer yet. Rijdt 1 op 13, niet harder dan 130 km/uur. Wel met winterbanden en buitenland verzekering, sneeuwkettingen zijn te regelen

== Mission Statement(s) ==

* Attach glyphs to the Stargate in Arcalis

== Preview ==
* [http://www.skiandorra.ad/ENG_index.html Ski Andorra]
* [http://www.avoriaz.com/ski-holidays/# Ski Avoriaz]
* [http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1238&bih=807&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=andorra+ski&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= Andorra]
* [http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/790711/9bf5698d/wintersports_outdoor.html how not to board/ski]

== When ==

* Please fill in which weeks suit best for you
* The dates are not fixed, but its just an indication of which weeks
* If you have comments please place then below the table
* don't forget to click save

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Comments
* * diggie alles noch unter Vorbehalt, jaah!
* 3-9 januari is altijd de goedkoopste week van het seizoen
* december is heel sneeuwonzeker in de alpen, dan is het handig er een last minute iets van te maken
* de officiële voorjaarsvakantie is van 19 feb 2011 t/m 27 feb 2011 (landelijk)
* 12 februari viert Jacko zijn verjaardag, en daar moet ik bij zijn - Will-Do
* 16 februari mogen Jildou en Heleen waarschijnlijk hun diploma ophalen (maar zoals alles bij onze school weten ze dat nog niet zeker). Mocht dat zo zijn gaat dat voor natuurlijk
* thyrif wil zeer waarschijnlijk ook mee, en kan meestal ook wel, maar misschien niet (aka, onder voorbehoud)

Wintersport11Options

2010-10-03T16:12:59Z

Elanthia: /* France */

General page: http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/Wintersport2011

<Will-Do> als iedereen (bijv) voor het einde van okt de opties uitzoekt vaar hij/zij naar toe zou willen (incl kosten etc) hebben we dan een duidelijk overzicht en kunnen we een goede keuze maken
<diggie> Will-Do: klinkt als 'n plan
<aequitas> Will-Do: ik denk dat we eerst de eisen moeten opstellen
<aequitas> max kosten en zo
<aequitas> als we die duidelijk hebben kunnen we precies zoeken wat ons past
<Will-Do> deal, ik heb page aangemaakt waar iedereen zijn verwachtingen op kan zetten
<aequitas> yup, enkele eisen en iedereen +1en
<aequitas> lijkt me het makkelijkst
<aequitas> anders moeten we met tabellen gaan werken
<Will-Do> gewoon neerzetten "[naam] wil een echt bed" en dan volgende persoon [naam]+1
<aequitas> Will-Do: sommige dingen, zoals echt bed, kunnen we we als [iedereen] doen
<aequitas> en dat mensen uitzondering mogen aangeven

If you have a preference towards $something on the trip (like, "no more then $moneys" or "I want to have my own personal room"), please add this preference on the list and we're taking this list in account.

= Expectations / Wishes =
* diggie wants a chalet in the snow (that is, on the piste)
** +1 aequitas (if the price is good)
* wants a chalet next to or close to the piste(s)/gondola (freedom to go to the piste any time)
** EVERYONE (mandatory)
* diggie wants a chalet on walking distance to the piste
** +1 elanthia
* diggie likes trees around the slopes (~1500-~2000m high ski-village)
** ...
* No more than 500 euro's cost total (housing, eating, ski-passes, fuel)
** +1 Will-Do
** +1 aequitas
** +1 momo
** +1 elanthia
* A real bed to sleep on
** EVERYONE
* And I mean no bunk-beds either or sleeping in the living-room necessary
** EVERYONE
** - (exception?)
* People who snore sleep in the same room(s), or will look for a room mate who doesn't care
** +1 diggie
** +1 Will-Do
** +1 Failbaitr
** +1 aequitas (on roommate who doesn;t care)
** +1 Elmer
** +1 Elanthia
* As a couple with ... I would like to sleep in one separate room (without bunk beds (stapelbed) of course :P)
** +1 Will-Do
** +1 Failbaitr
** +1 aequitas
** +1 momo
* want the whole group to be in one apartment
** ...
* Doesn't give a rat's ass... just want to enjoy the snow (let's not fuss too much about costs, arrangements and location)
** +1 FooBar
* Own kitchen (in the apartment, as opposed to a hotel and catering)
** Depends on the cost, but by assuming catering would be a lot more expensive: Will-Do
** +1 Elanthia (we can also bring a lot of food ourselves, pasta etc.)
* Regular changes of drivers during the trip (aka, every <del>3</del> 4 hours or so a different driver. Changing doesn't have to take long, just hop out and hop in the other side).
** Will-Do
** Elanthia (can't drive much longer than 2 hours, I'm not a regular driver)
<aequitas> wisselen is idd een voorwaarde, 2 uur is mij te kort maar 4 uur is een prima compromis, eigenaren van de autos gaan er mee akoord anders stellen ze hun auto niet beschikbaar en gaan we voor een busje kijken

= Options =

== Traveling ==
* <del>Lent some busses to travel to Adorra, build up wifi in the busses, have an awesome time.</del> Costs: To much

<Elmer> ter indicatie.. een Ford Galaxy kost maandelijks meer dan vierduizend euro
<Will-Do> jamaar wij willen hem 10 dagen
<Will-Do> (vrijdag - maandag, zondag zijn ze dicht)
<aequitas> enkele reis met europcar kost 750 euro
<aequitas> utrecht chambery (val thorens/frankrijk)
<aequitas> en dat is maar met 300 km inclusief
<aequitas> dus komt nog ongeveer 600*0,25 bij
<aequitas> en brandstof
<Elmer> Will-Do: dan kost die galaxy voor 10 dagen dus 1300 EUR + extra kilometers.. ten minste
<aequitas> kunnen we stellen dat een busje huren geen optie is tenzij we echt in problemen komen met het aantal auto's

== Housing ==

=== Andorra ===
* http://www.hola-andorra.com/arinsal/english/ribafetagb.html -> beds for 12 persons (double-beds counted as couple-bed or 1 person), 2'075,00 E for 7 nights (only available at <feb, 19-25 feb + 5-11 march)
* http://www.hostelworld.com/hosteldetails.php/Husa-Xalet-Verdu/Arinsal/15545 -> Hostel, rest a load of 2 people rooms... scales nicely, 220e pp for 7 nights, lots of availability, close to the lift.
** The hotel can be found in the mountain village of Arinsal, 300 metres from the ski resort’s ski lift (Sector Arinsal) and only a short distance from the centre of Andorra la Vella and Caldea thermal leisure centre. The hotel is characterised by its friendly, comfortable family atmosphere. It has 52 rooms, all of which look onto the street and have a direct telephone line and satellite TV. The hotel also offers a reading room, restaurant and bar, garden area, heated outdoor pool, ski storage, inside garage (for a fee) and free outdoor car park.

=== France ===
http://winter.husk.nl/bestemmingen.htm
* Val Thorens
* Avoriaz
* ..

Bookings at travel agencies have usually the advantage of cheaper included ski passes, so it could be useful to check:
* http://winter.husk.nl/bestemmingen.htm
* http://wintersport.sunweb.nl/
* http://www.snowtime.nl/
* http://www.arke.nl/wintersport/

=== Austria ===

Wintersport11Options

2010-10-03T16:03:44Z

Elanthia: /* Expectations / Wishes */

Wintersport11Options

2010-10-03T16:01:20Z

Elanthia: /* Expectations / Wishes */

General page: http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/Wintersport2011

<Will-Do> als iedereen (bijv) voor het einde van okt de opties uitzoekt vaar hij/zij naar toe zou willen (incl kosten etc) hebben we dan een duidelijk overzicht en kunnen we een goede keuze maken
<diggie> Will-Do: klinkt als 'n plan
<aequitas> Will-Do: ik denk dat we eerst de eisen moeten opstellen
<aequitas> max kosten en zo
<aequitas> als we die duidelijk hebben kunnen we precies zoeken wat ons past
<Will-Do> deal, ik heb page aangemaakt waar iedereen zijn verwachtingen op kan zetten
<aequitas> yup, enkele eisen en iedereen +1en
<aequitas> lijkt me het makkelijkst
<aequitas> anders moeten we met tabellen gaan werken
<Will-Do> gewoon neerzetten "[naam] wil een echt bed" en dan volgende persoon [naam]+1
<aequitas> Will-Do: sommige dingen, zoals echt bed, kunnen we we als [iedereen] doen
<aequitas> en dat mensen uitzondering mogen aangeven

If you have a preference towards $something on the trip (like, "no more then $moneys" or "I want to have my own personal room"), please add this preference on the list and we're taking this list in account.

= Expectations / Wishes =
* diggie wants a chalet in the snow (that is, on the piste)
** +1 aequitas (if the price is good)
* wants a chalet next to or close to the piste(s)/gondola (freedom to go to the piste any time)
** EVERYONE (mandatory)
* diggie wants a chalet on walking distance to the piste
** +1 elanthia
* diggie likes trees around the slopes (~1500-~2000m high ski-village)
** ...
* No more than 500 euro's cost total (housing, eating, ski-passes, fuel)
** +1 Will-Do
** +1 aequitas
** +1 momo
** +1 elanthia
* A real bed to sleep on
** EVERYONE
* And I mean no bunk-beds either or sleeping in the living-room necessary
** EVERYONE
** - (exception?)
* People who snore sleep in the same room(s), or will look for a room mate who doesn't care
** +1 diggie
** +1 Will-Do
** +1 Failbaitr
** +1 aequitas (on roommate who doesn;t care)
** +1 Elmer
** +1 Elanthia
* As a couple with ... I would like to sleep in one separate room (without bunk beds (stapelbed) of course :P)
** +1 Will-Do
** +1 Failbaitr
** +1 aequitas
** +1 momo
* want the whole group to be in one apartment
** ...
* Doesn't give a rat's ass... just want to enjoy the snow (let's not fuss too much about costs, arrangements and location)
** +1 FooBar
* Own kitchen (in the apartment, as opposed to a hotel and catering)
** Depends on the cost, but by assuming catering would be a lot more expensive: Will-Do
** +1 Elanthia
* Regular changes of drivers during the trip (aka, every <del>3</del> 4 hours or so a different driver. Changing doesn't have to take long, just hop out and hop in the other side).
** Will-Do
** Elanthia (can't drive much longer than 2 hours, I'm not a regular driver)
<aequitas> wisselen is idd een voorwaarde, 2 uur is mij te kort maar 4 uur is een prima compromis, eigenaren van de autos gaan er mee akoord anders stellen ze hun auto niet beschikbaar en gaan we voor een busje kijken

= Options =

== Traveling ==
* <del>Lent some busses to travel to Adorra, build up wifi in the busses, have an awesome time.</del> Costs: To much

<Elmer> ter indicatie.. een Ford Galaxy kost maandelijks meer dan vierduizend euro
<Will-Do> jamaar wij willen hem 10 dagen
<Will-Do> (vrijdag - maandag, zondag zijn ze dicht)
<aequitas> enkele reis met europcar kost 750 euro
<aequitas> utrecht chambery (val thorens/frankrijk)
<aequitas> en dat is maar met 300 km inclusief
<aequitas> dus komt nog ongeveer 600*0,25 bij
<aequitas> en brandstof
<Elmer> Will-Do: dan kost die galaxy voor 10 dagen dus 1300 EUR + extra kilometers.. ten minste
<aequitas> kunnen we stellen dat een busje huren geen optie is tenzij we echt in problemen komen met het aantal auto's

== Housing ==

=== Andorra ===
* http://www.hola-andorra.com/arinsal/english/ribafetagb.html -> beds for 12 persons (double-beds counted as couple-bed or 1 person), 2'075,00 E for 7 nights (only available at <feb, 19-25 feb + 5-11 march)
* http://www.hostelworld.com/hosteldetails.php/Husa-Xalet-Verdu/Arinsal/15545 -> Hostel, rest a load of 2 people rooms... scales nicely, 220e pp for 7 nights, lots of availability, close to the lift.
** The hotel can be found in the mountain village of Arinsal, 300 metres from the ski resort’s ski lift (Sector Arinsal) and only a short distance from the centre of Andorra la Vella and Caldea thermal leisure centre. The hotel is characterised by its friendly, comfortable family atmosphere. It has 52 rooms, all of which look onto the street and have a direct telephone line and satellite TV. The hotel also offers a reading room, restaurant and bar, garden area, heated outdoor pool, ski storage, inside garage (for a fee) and free outdoor car park.

=== France ===

=== Austria ===

Wintersport2011

2010-09-30T11:53:42Z

Elanthia: Calendar Updated

{{Event
|Name=Wintersport 2011
|DateStart=2011/?/?
|Info=Wintersport in Andorra
}}
[[Image:Arinsal-gondels.jpg|200px|thumb]]
[[Image:andorra-surf.jpg|200px|thumb|Chef Syb]]
[[Image:andorra-stargate.jpg|200px|thumb|Andorra: please dial in at your nearest Stargate]]
[[Image:jan-sieb.jpg|200px|thumb|No comment]]

== What ==

Snowflakes will be dropping down in Andorra next year, and it would be a waste not to there to enjoy it.

So who will be coming along? Please fill in your name if your interested to come.

For the previous events look here [[Wintersport]] & [[Wintersport10]].

There will probably be a indoor ski/snowboard event before the end of this year, to practice or learn the first steps (we got great ski and snowboard teachers: [[User:failbaitr|Ariel]], [[User:pluisje|Rudolf]])

* [http://www.rentalia.com/ski-resorts-andorran-pyrenees/ skiing areas in andorra]

== Costs ==
Wintersport can be expensive if you want to. But we managed to go all-in (transport, apartment, good food, ski-passes) for less then € 500,- per person. For one week of wintersport.

=== Housing / preferences ===
Last year we talked about different housing options. There are a couple of people who aren't very rich/are students who didn't care to much and there are a couple of people who have enough money/have a normal job who would like a five star hotel. If you have a preference towards housing or something else on the trip (like, "no more then $moneys" or "I want to have my own personal room"), please add this preference on the list and we're taking this list in account.

* [name] does have [preference]
* Will-Do; No more than 500 costs in total and a room together with failbaitr

== Where ==
===Options===
* Andorra
** Although Andorra is the most awesomest place ever, it can be useful to explore the other options..
* France
** The Avoriaz area is also cool, it has a big ski area (portes du soleil) with a lot of snowparks, got cheap housings, apres-ski possibilities and is nearby (about 8-9 hour drive)
**<james> La Tania has a mini-pass which includes a telecabine for EUR15/day - and a decent ski area - http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/La-Tania/pistemap
**<james> the telecabine is about 50 metres from the building - downhill on snow :-)
* Austria
** Oostenrijk..
*** Solden, big resort absolute fun for experts and beginners. (Not as far away from NL as Andorra, less fuel costs :) )
http://www.soelden.com/main/NL/SD/WI/skigebiet/index.html

==Transport==
* [[User:Aequitas|Aequitas]] - prius, 4 people (incl me), no fuel costs
* [[User:Elanthia|Elanthia]] - Opel Corsa, 4 people (incl me), with fuel costs unfortunately :)
* [[User:Will-Do|Will-Do]] - Is planning on asking to lent the car of her parents. Renault Megane Scenic, 5 people excl ski-stuff, incl me. With fuel costs -> Onder voorbehoud dus

== Mission Statement ==

Attach glyphs to the Stargate in Arcalis

== Preview ==
* [http://www.skiandorra.ad/ENG_index.html Ski Andorra]
* [http://www.avoriaz.com/ski-holidays/# Ski Avoriaz]
* [http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1238&bih=807&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=andorra+ski&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= Andorra]
* [http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/790711/9bf5698d/wintersports_outdoor.html how not to board/ski]

== When ==

* Please fill in which weeks suit best for you
* The dates are not fixed, but its just an indication of which weeks
* If you have comments please place then below the table
* don't forget to click save

<terminator>

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Comments
* 3-9 januari is altijd de goedkoopste week van het seizoen
* december is heel sneeuwonzeker in de alpen, dan is het handig er een last minute iets van te maken
* de officiële voorjaarsvakantie is van 19 feb 2011 t/m 27 feb 2011 (landelijk)
* http://winter.husk.nl/bestemmingen.htm el cheapo wintersport

Wintersport2011

2010-09-29T19:05:50Z

Elanthia: /* When */

{{Event
|Name=Wintersport 2011
|DateStart=2011/?/?
|Info=Wintersport in Andorra
}}
[[Image:Arinsal-gondels.jpg|200px|thumb]]
[[Image:andorra-surf.jpg|200px|thumb|Chef Syb]]
[[Image:andorra-stargate.jpg|200px|thumb|Andorra: please dial in at your nearest Stargate]]
[[Image:jan-sieb.jpg|200px|thumb|No comment]]

== What ==

Snowflakes will be dropping down in Andorra next year, and it would be a waste not to there to enjoy it.

So who will be coming along? Please fill in your name if your interested to come.

For the previous events look here [[Wintersport]] & [[Wintersport10]].

There will probably be a indoor ski/snowboard event before the end of this year, to practice or learn the first steps (we got great ski and snowboard teachers: [[User:failbaitr|Ariel]], [[User:pluisje|Rudolf]])

* [http://www.rentalia.com/ski-resorts-andorran-pyrenees/ skiing areas in andorra]

== Who (animo check) ==

* {{Present|Aequitas}}
* [[User:momo|momo]] - interested
* {{Present|FooBar}}
* {{Present|Failbaitr}}
* [[User:diggie|diggie]] (interested)
* {{Present|Will-Do}}
* {{Present|Elmer}}
* {{Present|Brainsmoke}} \o/ \\o o// \/o o\/
* {{Present|Elanthia}} w00sj! (will try not to break anything this time)

== Costs ==
Wintersport can be expensive if you want to. But we managed to go all-in (transport, apartment, good food, ski-passes) for less then € 500,- per person. For one week of wintersport.

=== Housing / preferences ===
Last year we talked about different housing options. There are a couple of people who aren't very rich/are students who didn't care to much and there are a couple of people who have enough money/have a normal job who would like a five star hotel. If you have a preference towards housing or something else on the trip (like, "no more then $moneys" or "I want to have my own personal room"), please add this preference on the list and we're taking this list in account.

* [name] does have [preference]
* Will-Do; No more than 500 costs in total and a room together with failbaitr

== Where ==
===Options===
* Andorra
** Although Andorra is the most awesomest place ever, it can be useful to explore the other options..
* France
** The Avoriaz area is also cool, it has a big ski area (portes du soleil) with a lot of snowparks, got cheap housings, apres-ski possibilities and is nearby (about 8-9 hour drive)
**<james> La Tania has a mini-pass which includes a telecabine for EUR15/day - and a decent ski area - http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/La-Tania/pistemap
**<james> the telecabine is about 50 metres from the building - downhill on snow :-)
* Austria
** Oostenrijk..

==Transport==
* [[User:Aequitas|Aequitas]] - prius, 4 people (incl me), no fuel costs
* [[User:Elanthia|Elanthia]] - Opel Corsa, 4 people (incl me), with fuel costs unfortunately :)

== Mission Statement ==

Attach glyphs to the Stargate in Arcalis

== Preview ==
* [http://www.skiandorra.ad/ENG_index.html Ski Andorra]
* [http://www.avoriaz.com/ski-holidays/# Ski Avoriaz]
* [http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1238&bih=807&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=andorra+ski&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= Andorra]
* [http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/790711/9bf5698d/wintersports_outdoor.html how not to board/ski]

== When ==

* Please fill in which weeks suit best for you
* The dates are not fixed, but its just an indication of which weeks
* If you have comments please place then below the table
* don't forget to click save

<terminator>

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</terminator>

Comments
* 3-9 januari is altijd de goedkoopste week van het seizoen
* december is heel sneeuwonzeker in de alpen, dan is het handig er een last minute iets van te maken
* de officiële voorjaarsvakantie is van 19 feb 2011 t/m 27 feb 2011 (landelijk)
* http://winter.husk.nl/bestemmingen.htm el cheapo wintersport

Wintersport indoor tryout2010

2010-09-28T12:59:20Z

Elanthia: Calendar Updated

{{Event
|Name=Wintersport Tryout (indoor)
|Info=Indoor snowboarden/skien om alvast te oefenen voor de echte wintersport
}}

==== Waar? ====

[[Image:snowplanet.jpg|thumb|200px|Snowplanet]]
=====[http://www.snowplanet.nl/ Snowplanet] (spaarnwoude)=====
* <s>Redelijk centraal gelegen</s> Ergens in een <del>uithoek</del> in noord-holland, vlakbij adam
* Een lange baan 230 meter en 1 korte
* Goedkoop op zondagavond vanaf 17:00 (18 EUR voor 4 uur + 7,50 voor materiaal)
* Ook snelle lift xD (faal voor snowboarders)
* Tarieven:
** Zondagavond: 21,50
** Donderdagavond 12,00 p/uur
** Normaal 2 uur: 29,00 (zondag: 34,00)
** Normaal 4 uur: 30,50 (ma tot za)
* Materiaal:
** 7,50 onbeperkt uren
* [http://www.snowplanet.nl/?pag=894 Acties]

[[Image:snowworld.jpg|thumb|200px|Snowworld (zoetermeer)]]

=====[http://zoetermeer.snowworld.com/ Snowworld] (zoetermeer)=====
* 500 Meter bij foobar vandaan -> in zuid holland
* 1 lange baan 210 meter, 1 korte en funpark
* vijf lange sleepliften, een touwlift en twee kinderliften, een kinder speelplaats en een funpark
* Toegang:
** 2 uur: 29,50 (vanaf oktober: 31,50)
** 4 uur: 35,00 (vanaf oktober: 37,00)
* Acties:
** Cheap Sunday: € 19.50 voor 4 uur (ex. materiaal) (vanaf 19:00 tot 23:00)
** Maandag: 2 voor de prijs van 1
** 29,50: 4 uur toegang (ex. materiaal) tortilla chips met salsa keuze uit onbeperkt barbecuebuffet of gegrilde Rib Eye steak met bearnaisesaus, roerbakgroenten en röstirondjes (alleen in Zoetermeer)
** 37,50: 2 uur toegang (ex. materiaal) brood met kruidenboter western steak met maïskolf en gepofte aardappel
* [[http://zoetermeer.snowworld.com/pages/content/s2/kortingacties+zm.aspx Acties]]
* Materiaalhuur:
** 2 uur: 10 euro
** 4 uur: 12,50 euro

===Wie===
* {{Present|Aequitas}}
* {{Present|Failbaitr}}
* {{Present|Will-Do}} - Mits op een datum dat ik kan natuurlijk. En mits toegankelijk voor boarders die niet met sleepliften om kunnen gaan
* gmc (mits voldoende voor 25 oktober)
* diggie (interested en weinig tijd in okt)
* {{Present|Elanthia}} - Alleen Snowworld Zoetermeer, NH is een beetje te ver. Vooral zondagavond is wel chill.
* {{Present|FooBar}} - Zoetermeer heeft wel de voorkeur (obviously)
* {{Present|VeXocide}}

===Wanneer===
<terminator>


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</terminator>

Wintersport2011

2010-09-28T12:55:05Z

Elanthia: /* When */

Wintersport2011

2010-09-28T12:53:20Z

Elanthia: Calendar Updated

Wintersport2011

2010-09-23T11:36:50Z

Elanthia: /* Preview */

{{Event
|Name=Wintersport 2011
|DateStart=2011/?/?
|Info=Wintersport in Andorra
}}
== What ==
[[Image:Arinsal-gondels.jpg|300px|thumb]]
Snowflakes will be dropping down in Andorra next year, and it would be a waste not to there to enjoy it.

So who will be coming along? Please fill in your name if your interested to come.

For the previous events look here [[Wintersport]] & [[Wintersport10]].

There will probably be a indoor ski/snowboard event before the end of this year, to practice or learn the first steps (we got great ski and snowboard teachers: [[User:failbaitr|Ariel]], [[User:pluisje|Rudolf]])

* [http://www.rentalia.com/ski-resorts-andorran-pyrenees/ skiing areas in andorra]

== Who (animo check) ==

* {{Present|Aequitas}}
* [[User:momo|momo]] - interested
* {{Present|FooBar}}
* {{Present|Failbaitr}}
* [[User:diggie|diggie]] (interested)
* {{Present|Will-Do}}
* {{Present|Elmer}}
* {{Present|Brainsmoke}} \o/ \\o o// \/o o\/
* {{Present|Elanthia}} w00sj! (will try not to break anything this time)

== Costs ==
[[Image:andorra-surf.jpg|300px|thumb|Chef Syb]]
Wintersport can be expensive if you want to. But we managed to go all-in (transport, apartment, good food, ski-passes) for less then € 500,- per person. For one week of wintersport.

=== Housing / preferences ===
Last year we talked about different housing options. There are a couple of people who aren't very rich/are students who didn't care to much and there are a couple of people who have enough money/have a normal job who would like a five star hotel. If you have a preference towards housing or something else on the trip (like, "no more then $moneys" or "I want to have my own personal room"), please add this preference on the list and we're taking this list in account.

* [name] does have [preference]
* Will-Do; No more than 500 costs in total and a room together with failbaitr

== When ==
( a easy table will be fixed to plan the best week for all of us, stay tuned, in the meantime, fill in if you are interested above)

== Where ==
Although Andorra is the most awesomest place ever, it can be useful to explore the other options..

The Avoriaz area is also cool, it has a big ski area (portes du soleil) with a lot of snowparks, got cheap housings, apres-ski possibilities and is nearby (about 8-9 hour drive)

==Transport==
[[Image:andorra-stargate.jpg|300px|thumb|Andorra: please dial in at your nearest Stargate]]
* [[User:Aequitas|Aequitas]] - prius, 4 people (incl me), no fuel costs
* [[User:Elanthia|Elanthia]] - Opel Corsa, 4 people (incl me), with fuel costs unfortunately :)

== Mission Statement ==

Attach glyphs to the Stargate in Arcalis

== Preview ==
[[Image:jan-sieb.jpg|300px|thumb|No comment]]
* [http://www.skiandorra.ad/ENG_index.html Ski Andorra]
* [http://www.avoriaz.com/ski-holidays/# Ski Avoriaz]
* [http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1238&bih=807&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=andorra+ski&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= Andorra]
* [http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/790711/9bf5698d/wintersports_outdoor.html how not to board/ski]

Wintersport2011

2010-09-23T11:36:05Z

Elanthia: /* Transport */

{{Event
|Name=Wintersport 2011
|DateStart=2011/?/?
|Info=Wintersport in Andorra
}}
== What ==
[[Image:Arinsal-gondels.jpg|300px|thumb]]
Snowflakes will be dropping down in Andorra next year, and it would be a waste not to there to enjoy it.

So who will be coming along? Please fill in your name if your interested to come.

For the previous events look here [[Wintersport]] & [[Wintersport10]].

There will probably be a indoor ski/snowboard event before the end of this year, to practice or learn the first steps (we got great ski and snowboard teachers: [[User:failbaitr|Ariel]], [[User:pluisje|Rudolf]])

* [http://www.rentalia.com/ski-resorts-andorran-pyrenees/ skiing areas in andorra]

== Who (animo check) ==

* {{Present|Aequitas}}
* [[User:momo|momo]] - interested
* {{Present|FooBar}}
* {{Present|Failbaitr}}
* [[User:diggie|diggie]] (interested)
* {{Present|Will-Do}}
* {{Present|Elmer}}
* {{Present|Brainsmoke}} \o/ \\o o// \/o o\/
* {{Present|Elanthia}} w00sj! (will try not to break anything this time)

== Costs ==
[[Image:andorra-surf.jpg|300px|thumb|Chef Syb]]
Wintersport can be expensive if you want to. But we managed to go all-in (transport, apartment, good food, ski-passes) for less then € 500,- per person. For one week of wintersport.

=== Housing / preferences ===
Last year we talked about different housing options. There are a couple of people who aren't very rich/are students who didn't care to much and there are a couple of people who have enough money/have a normal job who would like a five star hotel. If you have a preference towards housing or something else on the trip (like, "no more then $moneys" or "I want to have my own personal room"), please add this preference on the list and we're taking this list in account.

* [name] does have [preference]
* Will-Do; No more than 500 costs in total and a room together with failbaitr

== When ==
( a easy table will be fixed to plan the best week for all of us, stay tuned, in the meantime, fill in if you are interested above)

== Where ==
Although Andorra is the most awesomest place ever, it can be useful to explore the other options..

The Avoriaz area is also cool, it has a big ski area (portes du soleil) with a lot of snowparks, got cheap housings, apres-ski possibilities and is nearby (about 8-9 hour drive)

==Transport==
[[Image:andorra-stargate.jpg|300px|thumb|Andorra: please dial in at your nearest Stargate]]
* [[User:Aequitas|Aequitas]] - prius, 4 people (incl me), no fuel costs
* [[User:Elanthia|Elanthia]] - Opel Corsa, 4 people (incl me), with fuel costs unfortunately :)

== Mission Statement ==

Attach glyphs to the Stargate in Arcalis

== Preview ==
[[Image:jan-sieb.jpg|300px|thumb|No comment]]
* [http://www.skiandorra.ad/ENG_index.html Ski Andorra]
* [http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1238&bih=807&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=andorra+ski&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= Andorra]
* [http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/790711/9bf5698d/wintersports_outdoor.html how not to board/ski]

Wintersport2011

2010-09-23T11:35:05Z

Elanthia: /* Where */

{{Event
|Name=Wintersport 2011
|DateStart=2011/?/?
|Info=Wintersport in Andorra
}}
== What ==
[[Image:Arinsal-gondels.jpg|300px|thumb]]
Snowflakes will be dropping down in Andorra next year, and it would be a waste not to there to enjoy it.

So who will be coming along? Please fill in your name if your interested to come.

For the previous events look here [[Wintersport]] & [[Wintersport10]].

There will probably be a indoor ski/snowboard event before the end of this year, to practice or learn the first steps (we got great ski and snowboard teachers: [[User:failbaitr|Ariel]], [[User:pluisje|Rudolf]])

* [http://www.rentalia.com/ski-resorts-andorran-pyrenees/ skiing areas in andorra]

== Who (animo check) ==

* {{Present|Aequitas}}
* [[User:momo|momo]] - interested
* {{Present|FooBar}}
* {{Present|Failbaitr}}
* [[User:diggie|diggie]] (interested)
* {{Present|Will-Do}}
* {{Present|Elmer}}
* {{Present|Brainsmoke}} \o/ \\o o// \/o o\/
* {{Present|Elanthia}} w00sj! (will try not to break anything this time)

== Costs ==
[[Image:andorra-surf.jpg|300px|thumb|Chef Syb]]
Wintersport can be expensive if you want to. But we managed to go all-in (transport, apartment, good food, ski-passes) for less then € 500,- per person. For one week of wintersport.

=== Housing / preferences ===
Last year we talked about different housing options. There are a couple of people who aren't very rich/are students who didn't care to much and there are a couple of people who have enough money/have a normal job who would like a five star hotel. If you have a preference towards housing or something else on the trip (like, "no more then $moneys" or "I want to have my own personal room"), please add this preference on the list and we're taking this list in account.

* [name] does have [preference]
* Will-Do; No more than 500 costs in total and a room together with failbaitr

== When ==
( a easy table will be fixed to plan the best week for all of us, stay tuned, in the meantime, fill in if you are interested above)

== Where ==
Although Andorra is the most awesomest place ever, it can be useful to explore the other options..

The Avoriaz area is also cool, it has a big ski area (portes du soleil) with a lot of snowparks, got cheap housings, apres-ski possibilities and is nearby (about 8-9 hour drive)

==Transport==
[[Image:andorra-stargate.jpg|300px|thumb|Andorra: please dial in at your nearest Stargate]]
* [[User:Aequitas|Aequitas]] - prius, 4 people (incl me), no fuel costs

== Mission Statement ==

Attach glyphs to the Stargate in Arcalis

== Preview ==
[[Image:jan-sieb.jpg|300px|thumb|No comment]]
* [http://www.skiandorra.ad/ENG_index.html Ski Andorra]
* [http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&biw=1238&bih=807&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=andorra+ski&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= Andorra]
* [http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/790711/9bf5698d/wintersports_outdoor.html how not to board/ski]

User:Elanthia

2010-09-20T12:38:19Z

Elanthia:

* Elanthia, real name Esther
* mail: elanthia at gmail dot com

Wintersport indoor tryout2010

2010-09-20T11:56:24Z

Elanthia: /* Wie */

Wintersport indoor tryout2010

2010-09-20T11:55:14Z

Elanthia: /* Wie */

Wintersport2011

2010-09-20T11:49:37Z

Elanthia: /* Who (animo check) */

Wintersport2011

2010-09-20T11:48:48Z

Elanthia: /* Who (animo check) */

HxxHoodies

2010-01-08T09:59:28Z

Elanthia:

==Why==
We decided to give out free Hxx tshirts (contact aldert@rotz.org if you think you should get one)
to spread the news that the HAR volunteers and the Foundation behind HAR plan to continue to play
an active role in the Dutch hacker congress and hackerspaces scene.

[http://fenrir.high5.net/view_album.php?set_albumName=Hxx-CommunityAt26c3-28December2009 Photos of (part of) the Hxx community at 26c3]

Requests for an Hxx Hoodie have resulted in this wiki page :)

[[Image:Hooded Sweatshirt.png|thumb|250px|right]]

==What==

The Hoodies will be black and will have the now famous glow in the dark Hxx logo
quite big on the back and some smaller on the left front side.

There are 2 types of Hoodies : Zipper (red example on right) and NO-Zipper (blue example on right)

==Costs==
*All sizes up to and including XXL without zipper : 30 Euro
*All sizes up to and including XXL with zipper : 35 Euro
*(3XL without zipper: 35E, with zipper: 40E)

* '''If you sign up you confirm that want an Hxx Hoodie and will pay the correct amount.'''
*'''All sales are FINAL'''
*'''If you dont want to gamble with the size, maybe order a bigger one (or do not order, all sales are -final-)'''

The Hoodies will 99% certain be at eth0 and payment can be done in cash there.

==Deadline==
'''BESTELD''' Deadline passed.

===List of people who want Hoodie without zipper===
# Aldert, size L
# Bert, size 3XL
# [[user:janklopper|failbaitr]] size L
# [[user:loupgaroublond|loups]] size L (just in time too, i need a new one :) )
# [[user:Floes|Elmer]] size XL
# [[user:Vicarious|Vicarious]], size XL
# [[User:Thyrif|Thyrif]] size L
# [[user:Mischa|Mischa]] size XL
# [[User:MrNGm|mrngm]] size L
# [[User:rd|rd]] size XXL
# [[User:MishMash|MishMash]] size XL
# [[User:Spider|Spider]] size L
# [[User:R3boot|r3boot]] size L
'''BESTELD'''

[[Image:Hooded Sweat Jack.png|thumb|250px|right]]

===List of people who want Hoodie with zipper===
# Aldert, size L
# Bert, size 3XL
# Zarya, size XL
# [[User:Gmc|Gmc]], size XL
# pluisje, size L
# [[User:Airwolf:Airwolf]], size L
# [[User:Knorrie|Knorrie]], XL
# [[User:Timo|Timo]], XL (will not be at eth0, just contact me for payment & delivery)
# Dhillon, size L (hack in the box)
# [[User:JeroenDekkers|Dekkers]], size S
# Lasert, size L
# Cinder, size XL
# Quux, size 3XL
# [[user:Mischa|Mischa]] size XL
# [[User:rd|rd]] size XXL
# [[User:Brainsmoke|Brainsmoke]] size L
# [[User:Maze|maze]] size XL
# [[User:Juerd|Juerd]] XL
# [[User:Aequitas|Aequitas]] L
'''BESTELD'''

===Ladies zipper, 30 Euro===
[[Image:Spicy Hooded Sweat.png|thumb|250px|right]]

# Bienetje, M
# Elanthia, M (will not be on eth0)
# ..

HxxHoodies

2010-01-08T09:56:29Z

Elanthia: