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		<id>https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php?title=Talk:Eth0:2008_Summer/Pricing&amp;diff=343</id>
		<title>Talk:Eth0:2008 Summer/Pricing</title>
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		<updated>2008-01-17T14:54:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Unnet: New section: price way to high&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Prijsindicatie==&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaat zowel over deze page als het prijsstukje op de website: Ik vind het een beetje krom dat er een prijsindicatie van € 200,- staat, met direct daar achteraan &amp;quot;we ''will'' make&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;price ''will be'' below&amp;quot; ... Als de prijs gegarandeerd lager dan € 200,- wordt, wat voor nut heeft die prijsindicatie dan? Een prijsindicatie van € 200 met daarachter dat we ons best doen om het alsnog lager te krijgen, OF de mededeling dat het sowieso &amp;lt; € 200 wordt zonder specifieke indicatie erbij lijkt me dan logischer. --[[User:Tancaliel|Tancaliel]] 15:16, 16 January 2008 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ik zie steeds 'without reduction' erbij staan, wordt het toch goedkoper als je eerder betaalt? Of wordt er een andere korting bedoeld? --[[User:Tancaliel|Tancaliel]] 15:16, 16 January 2008 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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== price way to high ==&lt;br /&gt;
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200 euro's is just way to expensive for 7 days..&lt;br /&gt;
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People won't come if you are asking these kinds of fee's&lt;br /&gt;
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Campzone is 310 euro's for 11 days.. And they have been running this party for years now, so they have a good reputation with their visitors.. This is a totally new event.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ofcourse I'm well aware of the fact that these parties aren't cheap, but where did the times go when we paid 150 hfl for a party ;) (Oh wan99 the fond memories) :)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Unnet</name></author>
		
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		<id>https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php?title=Talk:Service:Power&amp;diff=246</id>
		<title>Talk:Service:Power</title>
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		<updated>2008-01-14T09:57:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Unnet: New section: Dual Generator Setup&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;ok what do we got here:&lt;br /&gt;
* lighting  (field, tent, etc)&lt;br /&gt;
** General field lights need to be available, Langhaar might be able to rent some large industrial high-voltage lights capable of replacing the evildaystar if need be.&lt;br /&gt;
* Field mushrooms / distribution points&lt;br /&gt;
* NOC / farmhouse separate feed?&lt;br /&gt;
**Feeding the NOC from the groundlines available in the building is a plus. Rebooting all the servers, and repairing any broken Filesystems and databases is could be more work than the visitors might like to wait for after a general power failure. ([[user:janklopper|jan klopper]] - 10-01-2008 9:30 CET)&lt;br /&gt;
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Another good one is cascading the supplies somehow (fresh from #eth0-kroei ;-))&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyone have any clue of what sort of consumption me might encounter ?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dual Generator Setup ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why 2 generators, this is purely overkill.. A generator is not that cheap, and using 2 for this event is just too much. I know redundancy is nice, but you should also look at what is feasible. This is the first year this event is taking place, so don't expect a lot of visitors. &lt;br /&gt;
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And 300 KVA is quite a lot, at the first NE2000 event we organised in 2000 we used a 200 KVA generator, which was running on like a 20% load with 160 people attending. At WAN NULL we also used a 200 KVA generator and there where some 400 people attending.&lt;br /&gt;
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Running seperate power feeds from different sources is bad, concerning grounding and phase differences. If you do this, make sure there are no copper connections between them.. So if you decided to run a network on both sources, make sure only optical fibre is between these 2 areas.&lt;br /&gt;
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How many people are you expecting ? Make sure you have several 32A 3PH outputs, as we are needing them as we come ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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Greetings, Cliff&lt;br /&gt;
Unilogic Networks&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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