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Wintersport2019

2018-08-12T23:28:49Z

Wollviech:

{{Event
|Name=wintersport2019
|Contact=Jack Frost
|DateStart=2019/01/01
|DateEnd=2019/04/30
|Info=Skiiiiiiiing!!!
}}
=Dates=

== Things to keep in mind ==
* Sinterklaas: 5th of Dec
* Holiday around Christmas in NL: 23rd of dec 2017 - 7th of jan 2018
* Fosdem: 1-3th of Feb 2019
* Valentines: 14th of Feb 2019
* Holiday around Feb:
** North of NL: 16-23th of Februari 2019
** South and Middle of NL: 23th of feb-2rd of March 2019
* Option 1: Around 12th of januari
* Option 2: Around 23rd of februari
* Option 3: Around 2nd of march

-----> So for around February the 16th-23th of Feb or 23th of Feb - 2rd of March looks the best

=== Restrictions per person ===
* Foobar: Can't go between 1st and the 14th of February or during fosdem
* Will-Do: Can't go in december, during Fosdem and after the 10th of March,

= Location =
[[WintersportOpties19]]

= Skiing area =

# Andorra
## Like last year!
# Austria
## Arlberg/St Anton/Lech
## Solden
# France
## Val Thorens/Meribel
# Italy
## Sellaronda/Alta Badia/Arrabba/Passo di Pordoi

== Bedrooms / beds==
Skibus stops near the house

[x] bedrooms, [x] double beds = [x] actual beds

+ [x] couches in livingroom

= Who's joining =

# Failbaitr
# Will-Do (ok for Feb/Mar)
# Foo-Bar (ok for Jan, Feb and/or March)
# James (ok for Jan/Feb)
# Fiona (prefer Jan/Feb, ok for March)
# (Brainsmoke ?)
# Wolviech (would prefer last week of jan/feb/mar)
# Attilla (not in jan)
# You?

= Costs =
Over the last years the complete holiday costs around 900e-1100e pp, incl house, food for the week, skipass and travels. If you eat out (for example during lunch on the piste, or dinners) and if you want to rent gear, it will cost more, but you can do it frugal and stay within the 800e.

* travel = fuel x km's (Austria about 900 km one-way, so ~2000km total including some local driving), guess about 250-300,- per car in fuel. Probably about 50 per car in tolls etc. (Though this might not be needed, depending on location.)
* Food and drinks €100-150 per person/week. We're normally cooking dinner together and eating out once this week, if we're doing fancy it can easily be made more expensive. Lunch can taken from the home, or be bought on the piste.
* skipass a €269 (6 days) source 2017: https://www.soelden.com/ski-pass-rates-winter#winter
* On piste-food: between 10 and 20,- per day is to be expected but you can also bring your own lunch

= Travel =

# https://www.anwb.nl/verkeer/buitenland/verkeersdruktekalenders-zwarte-zaterdag

== Available cars ==

== Time when which can will be leaving from where ==

Wintersport2019

2018-08-12T23:28:07Z

Wollviech:

{{Event
|Name=wintersport2019
|Contact=Jack Frost
|DateStart=2019/01/01
|DateEnd=2019/04/30
|Info=Skiiiiiiiing!!!
}}
=Dates=

== Things to keep in mind ==
* Sinterklaas: 5th of Dec
* Holiday around Christmas in NL: 23rd of dec 2017 - 7th of jan 2018
* Fosdem: 1-3th of Feb 2019
* Valentines: 14th of Feb 2019
* Holiday around Feb:
** North of NL: 16-23th of Februari 2019
** South and Middle of NL: 23th of feb-2rd of March 2019
* Option 1: Around 12th of januari
* Option 2: Around 23rd of februari
* Option 3: Around 2nd of march

-----> So for around February the 16th-23th of Feb or 23th of Feb - 2rd of March looks the best

=== Restrictions per person ===
* Foobar: Can't go between 1st and the 14th of February or during fosdem
* Will-Do: Can't go in december, during Fosdem and after the 10th of March,

= Location =
[[WintersportOpties19]]

= Skiing area =

# Andorra
## Like last year!
# Austria
## Arlberg/St Anton/Lech
## Solden
# France
## Val Thorens/Meribel
# Italy
## Sellaronda/Alta Badia/Arrabba/Passo di Pordoi

== Bedrooms / beds==
Skibus stops near the house

[x] bedrooms, [x] double beds = [x] actual beds

+ [x] couches in livingroom

= Who's joining =

# Failbaitr
# Will-Do (ok for Feb/Mar)
# Foo-Bar (ok for Jan, Feb and/or March)
# James (ok for Jan/Feb)
# Fiona (prefer Jan/Feb, ok for March)
# (Brainsmoke ?)
# (Wolviech would prefer last week of jan/feb/mar)
# Attilla (not in jan)
# You?

= Costs =
Over the last years the complete holiday costs around 900e-1100e pp, incl house, food for the week, skipass and travels. If you eat out (for example during lunch on the piste, or dinners) and if you want to rent gear, it will cost more, but you can do it frugal and stay within the 800e.

* travel = fuel x km's (Austria about 900 km one-way, so ~2000km total including some local driving), guess about 250-300,- per car in fuel. Probably about 50 per car in tolls etc. (Though this might not be needed, depending on location.)
* Food and drinks €100-150 per person/week. We're normally cooking dinner together and eating out once this week, if we're doing fancy it can easily be made more expensive. Lunch can taken from the home, or be bought on the piste.
* skipass a €269 (6 days) source 2017: https://www.soelden.com/ski-pass-rates-winter#winter
* On piste-food: between 10 and 20,- per day is to be expected but you can also bring your own lunch

= Travel =

# https://www.anwb.nl/verkeer/buitenland/verkeersdruktekalenders-zwarte-zaterdag

== Available cars ==

== Time when which can will be leaving from where ==

Wintersport2017

2016-10-13T09:19:49Z

Wollviech: /* Who's joining */

{{Event
|Name=wintersport2017
|Contact=Jack Frost
|DateStart=2017/02/10
|DateEnd=2016/03/30
|Info=Skiiiiiiing!!!
}}
=Dates=

= Location =
* [https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/WintersportOptions17 Options / search]

= Skiing area =

== Bedrooms / beds==
House near the piste

Skibus stops near the house as well

[x] bedrooms, [x] double beds = [x] actual beds

+ [x] bunkbeds/couches on a double-bed room

= Who's joining =

# Will-Do
# Failbaitr
# FooBar
# wollviech

= Costs =
* House / people =
* travel = fuel x km's
* Food ~100e per week? We're normally cooking dinner together and eating out once this week, if we're doing fancy it can easily be made more expensive. Lunch can taken from the home, or be bought on the piste.
* skipass a €250? (6 days)

= Travel =
== Available cars ==

== Time when which can will be leaving from where ==

WintersportOptions17

2016-07-08T11:26:41Z

Wollviech: /* Options */

= Austria =
* Pro's: close by, not that expensive
* con's: kinda crowded, we've been there several times (time for something new?)

== Options ==
* Ischgl (about as expensive as Soelden)
* Salzkammergut with Dachstein West/ as basecamp (lots of smaller resorts within 1-hour-car range, pick one and mix it up by going to others: Tauplitz, Krippenstein, Loser, Dachstein (contrary to the name, Dachstein West is not actually at the Dachstein))
* Obertauern (medium-sized, a bit lower, probably too low for later than mid of March)

=== Backup-Options ===
(aka where we've been already before)
* Zillertal
* Soelden
* St. Anton

= Andorra =
* Pro's: good weather, nice high mountains
* con's: far away, last time no snow

== Options ==
*

= France =
* pro's: good mountains, new area's
* con's: French people

== Options ==
* Val Thorens

= Swiss =
* pro's: nice mountains
* con's: expensive

== Options ==
*

= Italy =
* pro's: interesting mountains/slopes, high altitudes, cheaper than ch/fr
* con's: Further away, more expensive than .at, some lifts are less modern than in .at/.fr

== Options ==
* Cervinia, Italian side of Matterhorn/Zermatt. Probably the premier high altitude ski resorts in Italy, it combines stunning alpine landscapes with decaying architecture (that's Italy for you).
* Sella Ronda, Arraba or Alta Badia are the best compromise for access to easy/intermediary slopes as well as the adventure faction
* Monterosa (probably best in Gressoney for easy access to the red slopes. "Adventure tours" possible by going up Passo Salati/Punta Idren and heading down on the Alagna side. Note: Adventure tours most likely require a guide, most of the interesting stuff in Alagna is far away from the piste and not the "near backcountry" like in St. Anton or Soelden)
* Cortina d'Ampezzo (though that is probably _the_ poster child for "fading glory")

WintersportOptions17

2016-07-08T11:20:50Z

Wollviech: /* Options */

= Austria =
* Pro's: close by, not that expensive
* con's: kinda crowded, we've been there several times (time for something new?)

== Options ==
* Ischgl (about as expensive as Soelden)
* Salzkammergut with Dachstein West/ as basecamp (lots of smaller resorts within 1-hour-car range, pick one and mix it up by going to others: Tauplitz, Krippenstein, Loser, Dachstein (contrary to the name, Dachstein West is not actually at the Dachstein))
* Obertauern (medium-sized, a bit lower, probably too low for later than mid of March)

=== Backup-Options ===
(aka where we've been already before)
* Zillertal
* Soelden
* St. Anton

= Andorra =
* Pro's: good weather, nice high mountains
* con's: far away, last time no snow

== Options ==
*

= France =
* pro's: good mountains, new area's
* con's: French people

== Options ==
* Val Thorens

= Swiss =
* pro's: nice mountains
* con's: expensive

== Options ==
*

= Italy =
* pro's: interesting mountains/slopes, high altitudes, cheaper than ch/fr
* con's: Further away, more expensive than .at, some lifts are less modern than in .at/.fr

== Options ==
* Cervinia (Italian side of Matterhorn/Zermatt)
* Sella Ronda, Arraba or Alta Badia are the best compromise for access to easy/intermediary slopes as well as the adventure faction
* Monterosa (probably best in Gressoney for easy access to the red slopes. "Adventure tours" possible by going up Passo Salati/Punta Idren and heading down on the Alagna side. Note: Adventure tours most likely require a guide, most of the interesting stuff in Alagna is far away from the piste and not the "near backcountry" like in St. Anton or Soelden)
* Cortina d'Ampezzo (though that is probably _the_ poster child for "fading glory")

WintersportOptions17

2016-07-08T11:15:21Z

Wollviech: /* Options */

= Austria =
* Pro's: close by, not that expensive
* con's: kinda crowded, we've been there several times (time for something new?)

== Options ==
* Ischgl (about as expensive as Soelden)
* Salzkammergut with Dachstein West/ as basecamp (lots of smaller resorts within 1-hour-car range, pick one and mix it up by going to others: Tauplitz, Krippenstein, Loser, Dachstein (contrary to the name, Dachstein West is not actually at the Dachstein))
* Obertauern (medium-sized, a bit lower, probably too low for later than mid of March)

=== Backup-Options ===
(aka where we've been already before)
* Zillertal
* Soelden
* St. Anton

= Andorra =
* Pro's: good weather, nice high mountains
* con's: far away, last time no snow

== Options ==
*

= France =
* pro's: good mountains, new area's
* con's: French people

== Options ==
* Val Thorens

= Swiss =
* pro's: nice mountains
* con's: expensive

== Options ==
*

= Italy =
* pro's: interesting mountains/slopes, high altitudes, cheaper than ch/fr
* con's: Further away, more expensive than .at, some lifts are less modern than in .at/.fr

== Options ==
* Cervinia (Italian side of Matterhorn/Zermatt)
* Sella Ronda (probably in Arraba or Alta Badia)
* Monterosa (probably best in Gressoney for easy access to the red slopes. "Adventure tours" possible by going up Passo Salati/Punta Idren and heading down on the Alagna side. Note: Adventure tours most likely require a guide, most of the interesting stuff in Alagna is far away from the piste and not the "near backcountry" like in St. Anton or Soelden)

WintersportOptions17

2016-07-08T11:09:26Z

Wollviech: /* Options */

WintersportOptions17

2016-07-08T11:03:03Z

Wollviech: /* Austria */

WintersportOptions17

2016-07-08T10:48:45Z

Wollviech: /* Options */

= Austria =
* Pro's: close by, not that expensive
* con's: kinda crowded

== Options ==
*

= Andorra =
* Pro's: good weather, nice high mountains
* con's: far away, last time no snow

== Options ==
*

= France =
* pro's: good mountains, new area's
* con's: French people

== Options ==
* Val Thorens

= Swiss =
* pro's: nice mountains
* con's: expensive

== Options ==
*

= Italy =
* pro's: interesting mountains/slopes, high altitudes, cheaper than ch/fr
* con's: Further away, more expensive than .at, some lifts are less modern than in .at/.fr

== Options ==
* Cervinia (Italian side of Matterhorn/Zermatt)
* Sella Ronda

WintersportOptions17

2016-07-08T10:48:25Z

Wollviech:

= Austria =
* Pro's: close by, not that expensive
* con's: kinda crowded

== Options ==
*

= Andorra =
* Pro's: good weather, nice high mountains
* con's: far away, last time no snow

== Options ==
*

= France =
* pro's: good mountains, new area's
* con's: French people

== Options ==
*

= Swiss =
* pro's: nice mountains
* con's: expensive

== Options ==
*

= Italy =
* pro's: interesting mountains/slopes, high altitudes, cheaper than ch/fr
* con's: Further away, more expensive than .at, some lifts are less modern than in .at/.fr

== Options ==
* Cervinia (Italian side of Matterhorn/Zermatt)
* Sella Ronda

Wintersport2015

2015-03-06T18:47:36Z

Wollviech: /* open balances */

=Dates=
28 February t/m 7 March

= Area =
* Soelden / Solden / Sölden (the one in Austria, not the one in Germany!)
* http://www.wintersporters.nl/dorpen/solden

= Location =

* http://www.booking.com/hotel/at/garni-peter.en-gb.html (Four-bedroom apartment) / http://www.hotelappart-peter.at/en-gb/apartments/apwith4bedrooms.aspx * This apartment features a seating area, a fully equipped kitchen with a dining area, 4 bedrooms (2 accessible through the corridor). There are 4 private bathrooms fitted with a shower (each is en-suite to a bedroom).
* Free WiFi is available in all rooms.
* Apartment size: 140 m² / 1507 ft²
* Price: 619.70 eur per person (based on 8 people, includes cleaning and city tax)

== Bedrooms==

* Bedroom1: Jan + Jildou
* Bedroom2: James + Fiona?
* Bedroom3: FooBar/brainsmoke
* Bedroom4: Attilla/wollviech

= Who's joining =

* Will-Do
* Failbaitr
* FooBar
* Attilla
* Wollviech
* Brainsmoke
* James
* Fiona?

Booking has been made for the above persons (see details above). If you still like to join, maybe we can still arrange something. Join the IRC channel.

= Travel =
== Available cars ==
* Failbaitrs car, Toyota Auris, room for 3 people + ski's, benzine+electricity, not expensive, will be mandatory taken with us, from Lwd
* Attilla's car, room for 3 people + ski's (box), cheap and big so why not use this too, from Utrecht
* Wollviech's car, room for 3 people and skis, from Vienna. Probably useless for others unless you're taking the train and want to be picked up in Munich or Innsbruck.
* James' car, has snow tyres, and load-through the middle of the back seat for skis, so will take four people + skis. Might stay in the Netherlands from wintercamp until wintersport.

== Time when which can will be leaving from where ==

* Attilla will leave at 6:00 (the 28th) from Utrecht, poke me if you want to get a ride.
** FooBar, driving with attilla

== Grocery Costs ==

* Attilla - (Chips, pancakestuff, cheese, sausage) €25,-
* wollviech - (First day Groceries) €100,-
* Brain - (Second day groceries, wraps and stuff) €48,-
* FooBar - (Hamburger-shopping) €70,21
* wollviech - (Hamburger-shopping, part 2) €16
* Failbaitr
** Dinner @ Il Tirolese - €539.50 - + Tip €40 - minus Wine (its on me) €136 = €443.5 (+heleen/tristan/mom)
** Dinner @ phillip - €105.10 (heleen/wolvich/jildou,fiona,james)
** Groceries Mpreis - €114.06

=== open balances ===
* foo pays 36.85 (groceries/group dinner) to failbaitr
* attilla pays 32.06 (groceries/group dinner) to failbaitr
* brain pays 59 (groceries/group dinner) to failbaitr
* fiona pays 54 (groceries/group dinner) to james
* fiona pays 44 (groceries/group dinner) + 17.5 (dinner at philipps) to failbaitr
* james pays 17.5 (dinner at philipps) to failbaitr

Wintersport2015

2015-03-06T18:37:37Z

Wollviech:

Wintersport2015

2015-03-06T18:13:50Z

Wollviech: /* Grocery Costs */

Wintersport2015

2015-03-06T17:29:02Z

Wollviech: /* Grocery Costs */

Wintersport2015

2015-03-06T17:27:27Z

Wollviech: /* Grocery Costs */

Wintersport2015

2015-03-03T18:55:48Z

Wollviech: /* Grocery Costs */

=Dates=
28 February t/m 7 March

= Area =
* Soelden / Solden / Sölden (the one in Austria, not the one in Germany!)
* http://www.wintersporters.nl/dorpen/solden

= Location =

* http://www.booking.com/hotel/at/garni-peter.en-gb.html (Four-bedroom apartment) / http://www.hotelappart-peter.at/en-gb/apartments/apwith4bedrooms.aspx * This apartment features a seating area, a fully equipped kitchen with a dining area, 4 bedrooms (2 accessible through the corridor). There are 4 private bathrooms fitted with a shower (each is en-suite to a bedroom).
* Free WiFi is available in all rooms.
* Apartment size: 140 m² / 1507 ft²
* Price: 619.70 eur per person (based on 8 people, includes cleaning and city tax)

== Bedrooms==

* Bedroom1: Jan + Jildou
* Bedroom2: James + Fiona?
* Bedroom3: FooBar/brainsmoke
* Bedroom4: Attilla/wollviech

= Who's joining =

* Will-Do
* Failbaitr
* FooBar
* Attilla
* Wollviech
* Brainsmoke
* James
* Fiona?

Booking has been made for the above persons (see details above). If you still like to join, maybe we can still arrange something. Join the IRC channel.

= Travel =
== Available cars ==
* Failbaitrs car, Toyota Auris, room for 3 people + ski's, benzine+electricity, not expensive, will be mandatory taken with us, from Lwd
* Attilla's car, room for 3 people + ski's (box), cheap and big so why not use this too, from Utrecht
* Wollviech's car, room for 3 people and skis, from Vienna. Probably useless for others unless you're taking the train and want to be picked up in Munich or Innsbruck.
* James' car, has snow tyres, and load-through the middle of the back seat for skis, so will take four people + skis. Might stay in the Netherlands from wintercamp until wintersport.

== Time when which can will be leaving from where ==

* Attilla will leave at 6:00 (the 28th) from Utrecht, poke me if you want to get a ride.
** FooBar, driving with attilla

== Grocery Costs ==

* Attilla (Chips, pancakestuff, cheese, sausage) 25,-
* Wolviech (First day Groceries) 100,-
* Brain - 48 euro (Second day groceries, wraps and stuff)
* ?

Wintersport2015

2014-12-22T22:48:45Z

Wollviech: /* Available cars */

=Dates=
27 February t/m 7 March

= Area =
ischgl?

= Location =
[[WintersportOptions15 | Searching]]

== Bedrooms==

= Who's joining =

* Will-Do
* Failbaitr
* FooBar
* Attilla
* wollviech
* ... Name

+ family (4) + (2) + ...?

Before the booking will be made, the booker will check with every name above if the attendance is for sure. Till then, you can change your mind as many times as you want. After that, you'll still have to pay or you have to find a replacement person

= Travel =
== Available cars ==
* Failbaitrs car, Toyota Auris, room for 3 people + ski's, benzine+electricity, not expensive, will be mandatory taken with us, from Lwd
* Attilla's car, room for 3 people + ski's (box), cheap and big so why not use this too, from Utrecht
* Foobars car, smal so maybe not the best option, from den Haag
* Wollviech's car, room for 3 people and skis, from Vienna. Probably useless for others unless you're taking the train and want to be picked up in Munich or Innsbruck.

== Time when which can will be leaving from where ==

= Useful info =
*

Wintersport2015

2014-12-22T22:48:23Z

Wollviech: /* Available cars */

=Dates=
27 February t/m 7 March

= Area =
ischgl?

= Location =
[[WintersportOptions15 | Searching]]

== Bedrooms==

= Who's joining =

* Will-Do
* Failbaitr
* FooBar
* Attilla
* wollviech
* ... Name

+ family (4) + (2) + ...?

Before the booking will be made, the booker will check with every name above if the attendance is for sure. Till then, you can change your mind as many times as you want. After that, you'll still have to pay or you have to find a replacement person

= Travel =
== Available cars ==
* Failbaitrs car, Toyota Auris, room for 3 people + ski's, benzine+electricity, not expensive, will be mandatory taken with us, from Lwd
* Attilla's car, room for 3 people + ski's (box), cheap and big so why not use this too, from Utrecht
* Foobars car, smal so maybe not the best option, from den Haag
* Wollviech's car, room for 4 people and skis, from Vienna. Probably useless for others unless you're taking the train and want to be picked up in Munich or Innsbruck.

== Time when which can will be leaving from where ==

= Useful info =
*

Wintersport2015

2014-12-22T22:46:16Z

Wollviech: /* Who's joining */

=Dates=
27 February t/m 7 March

= Area =
ischgl?

= Location =
[[WintersportOptions15 | Searching]]

== Bedrooms==

= Who's joining =

* Will-Do
* Failbaitr
* FooBar
* Attilla
* wollviech
* ... Name

+ family (4) + (2) + ...?

Before the booking will be made, the booker will check with every name above if the attendance is for sure. Till then, you can change your mind as many times as you want. After that, you'll still have to pay or you have to find a replacement person

= Travel =
== Available cars ==
* Failbaitrs car, Toyota Auris, room for 3 people + ski's, benzine+electricity, not expensive, will be mandatory taken with us, from Lwd
* Attilla's car, room for 3 people + ski's (box), cheap and big so why not use this too, from Utrecht
* Foobars car, smal so maybe not the best option, from den Haag

== Time when which can will be leaving from where ==

= Useful info =
*

WintersportOptions15

2014-09-10T17:54:36Z

Wollviech:

Take a look at [[WintersportOpties13]] & [[WintersportOptions14]] for past years options

For the main page, klick at [[Wintersport2015]]

Dates will follow, some difficult dates:

* 24-26th of dec = Christmas,
* 25-31th of dec = CCC
* 31 dec - 1th of jan = newyears
* 8th of januari = ISOC newyears borrel
* 31 jan -2 feb = FOSDEM
* probably one of the last 2 weeks of February = Eth0
* Jildou's work is super difficult with free time in March

Unformated infodump from wollviech:

<pre>
19:17 < wollviech> regions: there's st. anton/lech am arlberg, which isn't as high but has a
significant amount of piste real estate between 2300 and 2800m. also expensive if
booked late
19:20 < wollviech> other contenders in tyrolia:
19:21 < wollviech> Soelden's nice and has a lot of stuff above 2500m
19:21 < wollviech> http://www.bergfex.com/soelden/panorama/
19:23 < wollviech> since i'm pasting ski charts, here's the two from st. anton/lech (one skipass)
19:23 < wollviech> http://www.bergfex.com/stanton-stchristoph/panorama/
19:23 < wollviech> http://www.bergfex.com/lech-zuers-arlberg/
19:24 < wollviech> stubai tal: http://www.bergfex.com/stubaier-gletscher/panorama/
19:25 < wollviech> and ischgl: http://www.bergfex.com/ischgl/panorama/
19:26 < wollviech> next, Italy
19:27 < wollviech> there's Alagna, which is reasonably cheap and high
19:27 < wollviech> http://www.bergfex.com/alagna-valsesia/panorama/
19:27 < wollviech> James and fail would probably like it, because it has gorgeous free runs comming out
of both ears
19:31 < wollviech> overall a rather hard resort, though. i don't whink foobar for example would like it
19:34 < wollviech> there's Cortina d'Ampezzo, which is nice and feaures gorgeous Dolomiti panorama, but
also very expensive
19:34 < wollviech> http://www.bergfex.com/cortina-ampezzo/panorama/
19:36 < wollviech> alta badia is very nice, too: http://www.bergfex.com/alta-badia/panorama/
19:38 < wollviech> its (slightly, and for Italian definitions of) cheaper, reasonably high up, in the
Dolomiti, and I think it offers a nice range of possibilities for all of us
19:43 < wollviech> oh, and how could i forget it
19:43 < wollviech> Cervinina: http://www.bergfex.com/breuil-cervinia/panorama/

</pre>

Wintersport2014

2014-02-17T16:45:12Z

Wollviech:

=Dates=
15-22th Of March 2014

= Area =
* Town: Kaltenbach
* Ski area [http://www.zillertal.at/ official website], [http://www.zillertalarena.com/en/arena/winter/start_winter.html website in English], [http://www.zillertalarena.com/nl/arena/winter/tarife.html website in Dutch], [http://www.wintersporters.nl/skigebieden/zillertal3000 more Dutch info]
* [http://www.zillertalarena.com/nl/arena/winter/tarife.html Skipass for 7 days = 254,00 euro]

= Location =
After a long [[WintersportOptions14 | search]] we found:
[http://www.appartement-kerschdorfer.at/appartment http://www.appartement-kerschdorfer.at/appartement/]

Johann Kerschdorfer
Dorfstrasse 12
A - 6272 Kaltenbach
Tel.: +43 5283 2392 0

According to google maps 937 km from Utrecht, about 8 hours drive

== Bedrooms==
*1x 1 bed = 1 person -> Attilla called dibs
*1x 3 1person beds = 3 people
*1x double-bed bedroom = 2 people -> Jildou & Failbaitr called dibs
*3x double-bed + couch bedrooms = 6+3 people

Total:

6 Bedrooms, 12 beds, incl couches; sleeping space for 15 people

Atm all the rooms are occupied by a minimum of one person. Extra people are welcome, but you'd have to share a room (if even more people join maybe a double bed) or you'd have to sleep on the couch.

= Price =
* Total price € 2650,00 including „Ortstaxe“ and final cleaning.
* Everyone who's joining will transfer 442 euro to Jildou (2650 / 6), pm her for details.
** If more people will join, and thus the houseprice / people will be cheaper, the surplus money will be used for dinner foods

= Who's joining =
Definitly joining
* James
* Failbaitr
* Will-Do
* Attilla
* FooBar
* Brainsmoke
* wollviech

Will-Do has made the booking... any cancellations now will not be accepted unless you either still pay or find someone to replace you.

= Travel =
== Available cars ==
* Failbaitrs car, Toyota Auris, room for 3 people + ski's, benzine+electricity, not expensive, will be mandatory taken with us, from Lwd
* Attillas car, room for 3 people + ski's, cheap and big so why not use this too, from Utrecht
* Foobars car, smal so maybe not the best option, from den Haag
* James' car, diesel, from the UK
* Wollviech's car, up to 3 passengers plus skis, from Vienna. Can pick up people in Rosenheim (Nighttrain CNL 1319 from Amsterdam to Munich, Railjet RJ 61 from Munich to Rosenheim. ETA for RJ61 is around 8:15 AM) along the way.

== Time when which can will be leaving from where ==
* Failbaitrs car will leave from Leeuwarden at [time][date]
** Most efficient route: Lwd -> Zwolle -> Apeldoorn -> Arnhem -> Dusseldorf -> Koln -> Frankfurt -> Nurnberg -> Munchen -> Austria
* Attilla's car will leave from Utrecht at [time][date]
** Most efficient route: Utrecht -> Arnhem -> see above
* James' car will be in [city] in the Netherlands at [time][date]

= Useful info =
* Note from the house owner: Please bring some towles with you!
* There will be no wifi in the apartment (yet), but there will be in the hotel nearby
* [http://zillertalski.skiticketshop.com/zillertalarena/calculator/?affiliate=ZILLERTALARENA You can already get your skipass online] if you have a credit card (visa / mastercard)
* There's a possibility to get breakfast / dinner in the hotel:
Extras in the Hotel Landhaus Kerschdorfer****:
breakfast: € 7,- pro Person
dinner (5-Gang Wahlmenü): € 17,50 pro Person
Breakkfast & dinner: € 22,50 pro Person