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== Traveling ==
 
== Traveling ==
* <del>Lent some busses to travel to Adorra, build up wifi in the busses, have an awesome time.</del> Costs: To much
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* <del>Lent some busses to travel to Adorra, build up wifi in the busses, have an awesome time.</del> Costs: Too much
  
 
         <Elmer> ter indicatie.. een Ford Galaxy kost maandelijks meer dan vierduizend euro
 
         <Elmer> ter indicatie.. een Ford Galaxy kost maandelijks meer dan vierduizend euro
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* I want to leave at friday evening; after my work
 
* I want to leave at friday evening; after my work
*+ 1 Will-Do
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**+ 1 Will-Do
*+ Failbaitr
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**+ Failbaitr
*+ aetab
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**+ aetab
*+ Elmer
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**+ Elmer
  
* I want to leave at saterday morning; after a short night of sleep
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* I want to leave at saturday morning; after a short night of sleep
+ 1 Foobar
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**+ 1 Foobar
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**+ 1 diggie; I'd like to start travel at around 3 in the morning. Be at $location around 17:00 or so.
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diggie sez: I think I can supply a car.
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* Renault Scénic. Seats 5 and a fair amount of <del>garbage</del> luggage. With snowboards/ski's it seats only 4. Diesel usage approx 5.5l/100km. Privately owned, lightly dented (read: other drivers are noooo problem)
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* Alternatively: We can use the merth-mobile (the VW T3 camper). Seats 5 + lots of baggage. However, max speed = ~95-105 km/h :-)
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* In both cases: I have a small trailer (1.20m x 1m x 50cm) and both my vehicles have a towing bracket for that. Might be very useful for lots of luggage (no ski's / snowboards however... E_WONTFIT)
  
 
== Housing ==
 
== Housing ==

Revision as of 22:11, 18 October 2010

General page: http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/Wintersport2011


        <Will-Do> als iedereen (bijv) voor het einde van okt de opties uitzoekt vaar hij/zij naar toe zou willen (incl kosten etc) hebben we dan een duidelijk overzicht en kunnen we een goede keuze maken
         <diggie> Will-Do: klinkt als 'n plan
         <aequitas> Will-Do: ik denk dat we eerst de eisen moeten opstellen 
         <aequitas> max kosten en zo 
         <aequitas> als we die duidelijk hebben kunnen we precies zoeken wat ons past 
         <Will-Do> deal, ik heb page aangemaakt waar iedereen zijn verwachtingen op kan zetten
         <aequitas> yup, enkele eisen en iedereen +1en 
         <aequitas> lijkt me het makkelijkst 
         <aequitas> anders moeten we met tabellen gaan werken 
         <Will-Do> gewoon neerzetten "[naam] wil een echt bed" en dan volgende persoon [naam]+1
         <aequitas> Will-Do: sommige dingen, zoals echt bed, kunnen we we als [iedereen] doen 
         <aequitas> en dat mensen uitzondering mogen aangeven  


If you have a preference towards $something on the trip (like, "no more then $moneys" or "I want to have my own personal room"), please add this preference on the list and we're taking this list in account.


Expectations / Wishes

  • diggie wants a chalet in the snow (that is, on the piste)
    • +1 aequitas (if the price is good)
  • wants a chalet next to or close to the piste(s)/gondola (freedom to go to the piste any time)
    • EVERYONE (mandatory)
  • diggie wants a chalet on walking distance to the piste
    • +1 elanthia
  • diggie likes trees around the slopes (~1500-~2000m high ski-village)
    • ...
  • No more than 500 euro's cost total (housing, eating, ski-passes, fuel)
    • +1 Will-Do
    • +1 aequitas
    • +1 momo
    • +1 elanthia
    • +1 thyrif
  • A real bed to sleep on
    • EVERYONE
  • And I mean no bunk-beds either or sleeping in the living-room necessary
    • EVERYONE
    • - (exception?)
    • -1 thyrif is fine with bunk beds
  • People who snore sleep in the same room(s), or will look for a room mate who doesn't care
    • +1 diggie
    • +1 Will-Do
    • +1 Failbaitr
    • +1 aequitas (on roommate who doesn;t care)
    • +1 Elmer
    • +1 Elanthia
  • As a couple with ... I would like to sleep in one separate room (without bunk beds (stapelbed) of course :P)
    • +1 Will-Do
    • +1 Failbaitr
    • +1 aequitas
    • +1 momo
    • +1 diggie; if i'm not coming alone :)
  • want the whole group to be in one apartment
    • +1 diggie; if "apartment" is replaced with "chalet"
    • ...
  • Doesn't give a rat's ass... just want to enjoy the snow (let's not fuss too much about costs, arrangements and location)
    • +1 FooBar
  • Own kitchen (in the apartment, as opposed to a hotel and catering)
    • Depends on the cost, but by assuming catering would be a lot more expensive: Will-Do
    • +1 Elanthia (we can also bring a lot of food ourselves, pasta etc.)
    • +1 diggie; cooking is cheap, but not all nights, because eating out is a lot of fun.
  • Regular changes of drivers during the trip (aka, every 3 4 hours or so a different driver. Changing doesn't have to take long, just hop out and hop in the other side).
    • Will-Do
    • Elanthia (can't drive much longer than 2 hours, I'm not a regular driver) - Same counts for me (=Will-Do)
    • <aequitas> wisselen is idd een voorwaarde, 2 uur is mij te kort maar 4 uur is een prima compromis, eigenaren van de autos gaan er mee akoord anders stellen ze hun auto niet beschikbaar en gaan we voor een busje kijken
    • thyrif can drive for about four hours straight, but hasn't driven in the mountains yet
    • diggie can sometimes drive for 16 hours straight, but sometimes not. Conclusion: stops are a good idea!
      Also, stops aren't evil. Stops are nice: have coffee together, maybe ppl wanna switch cars, talk for a bit, etc. \e/ STOPS ARE SOCIAL! \e/ +1

Options

Traveling

  • Lent some busses to travel to Adorra, build up wifi in the busses, have an awesome time. Costs: Too much
        <Elmer> ter indicatie.. een Ford Galaxy kost maandelijks meer dan vierduizend euro
        <Will-Do> jamaar wij willen hem 10 dagen
        <Will-Do> (vrijdag - maandag, zondag zijn ze dicht)
        <aequitas> enkele reis met europcar kost 750 euro 
        <aequitas> utrecht chambery (val thorens/frankrijk)
        <aequitas> en dat is maar met 300 km inclusief 
        <aequitas> dus komt nog ongeveer 600*0,25 bij 
        <aequitas> en brandstof
        <Elmer> Will-Do: dan kost die galaxy voor 10 dagen dus 1300 EUR + extra kilometers.. ten minste
        <aequitas> kunnen we stellen dat een busje huren geen optie is tenzij we echt in problemen komen met het aantal auto's
  • I want to leave at friday evening; after my work
    • + 1 Will-Do
    • + Failbaitr
    • + aetab
    • + Elmer
  • I want to leave at saturday morning; after a short night of sleep
    • + 1 Foobar
    • + 1 diggie; I'd like to start travel at around 3 in the morning. Be at $location around 17:00 or so.

diggie sez: I think I can supply a car.

  • Renault Scénic. Seats 5 and a fair amount of garbage luggage. With snowboards/ski's it seats only 4. Diesel usage approx 5.5l/100km. Privately owned, lightly dented (read: other drivers are noooo problem)
  • Alternatively: We can use the merth-mobile (the VW T3 camper). Seats 5 + lots of baggage. However, max speed = ~95-105 km/h :-)
  • In both cases: I have a small trailer (1.20m x 1m x 50cm) and both my vehicles have a towing bracket for that. Might be very useful for lots of luggage (no ski's / snowboards however... E_WONTFIT)

Housing

Andorra

  • http://www.hola-andorra.com/arinsal/english/ribafetagb.html -> beds for 12 persons (double-beds counted as couple-bed or 1 person), 2'075,00 E for 7 nights (only available at <feb, 19-25 feb + 5-11 march)
  • http://www.hostelworld.com/hosteldetails.php/Husa-Xalet-Verdu/Arinsal/15545 -> Hostel, rest a load of 2 people rooms... scales nicely, 220e pp for 7 nights, lots of availability, close to the lift.
    • The hotel can be found in the mountain village of Arinsal, 300 metres from the ski resort’s ski lift (Sector Arinsal) and only a short distance from the centre of Andorra la Vella and Caldea thermal leisure centre. The hotel is characterised by its friendly, comfortable family atmosphere. It has 52 rooms, all of which look onto the street and have a direct telephone line and satellite TV. The hotel also offers a reading room, restaurant and bar, garden area, heated outdoor pool, ski storage, inside garage (for a fee) and free outdoor car park.

France

http://winter.husk.nl/bestemmingen.htm

  • Val Thorens
  • Avoriaz
  • ..

Bookings at travel agencies have usually the advantage of cheaper included ski passes, so it could be useful to check:

Austria

Places

I would like to go to Andorra

  • +1 Failbaitr
  • +1 Will-Do, or Austria